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Patriot_1 wrote:Po  meni(a nadam se da nauk Novog Zavjeta poznam) svaki sex VAN braka!
Tko se toga drži danas?
Gdje smo mi to?
Gdje je naša vjera?
Da pojasnim,,i prije braka je VAN braka!
Zatim,,svaki sex je grijeh ako se ne radi o MUŽU i ŽENI(opet u braku)!
Komentirajte,,,

The church taught me that sex was for married people. Extramarital sex was sinful and dirty and I would go to Hell if I did it. I learned that as a girl, I had a responsibility to my future husband to remain pure for him. It was entirely possible that my future husband wouldn’t remain pure for me, because he didn’t have that same responsibility, according to the Bible. And of course, because I was a Christian, I would forgive him for his past transgressions and fully give myself to him, body and soul.
Once I got married, it would be my duty to fulfill my husband’s sexual needs. I was told over and over again, so many times I lost count, that if I remained pure, my marriage would be blessed by God and if I didn’t that it would fall apart and end in tragic divorce.


(...)

I lost my virginity on my wedding night, with my husband, just as I had promised that day when I was 10 years old. I stood in the hotel bathroom beforehand, wearing my white lingerie, thinking, “I made it. I’m a good Christian.” There was no chorus of angels, no shining light from Heaven. It was just me and my husband in a dark room, fumbling with a condom and a bottle of lube for the first time.
Sex hurt. I knew it would. Everyone told me it would be uncomfortable the first time. What they didn’t tell me is that I would be back in the bathroom afterward, crying quietly for reasons I didn’t yet comprehend. They didn’t tell me that I’d be on my honeymoon, crying again, because sex felt dirty and wrong and sinful even though I was married and it was supposed to be okay now.
When we got home, I couldn’t look anyone in the eye. Everyone knew my virginity was gone. My parents, my church, my friends, my co-workers. They all knew I was soiled and tarnished. I wasn’t special anymore. My virginity had become such an essential part of my personality that I didn’t know who I was without it.


It didn’t get better. I avoided undressing in front of my husband. I tried not to kiss him too often or too amorously so I wouldn’t lead him on. I dreaded bedtime. Maybe he’d want to have sex.

(...)


Ten-year-old girls want to believe in fairy tales. Take this pledge and God will love you so much and be so proud of you, they told me. If you wait to have sex until marriage, God will bring you a wonderful Christian husband and you’ll get married and live happily ever after, they said. Waiting didn’t give me a happily ever after. Instead, it controlled my identity for over a decade, landed me in therapy, and left me a stranger in my own skin. I was so completely ashamed of my body and my sexuality that it made having sex a demoralizing experience.

I was 14 years old when I married Jesus. Not Jesus, the Panamanian who worked at Six Flags. I mean Jesus Christ, the Lord. My parents sent me off to Baptist youth camp in Panama City Beach for the week, and I came home with a tan and a purity ring. I sat with my legs crossed, cramped in a theater with 200 sweaty, sobbing teens as our pastor described the unwavering bonds of sex and why it should only be experienced within the confines of marriage. (...)

After an intense and very detailed sex talk with my mother, where she stuttered and I blushed and we both used the word “flower,” I was terrified of sex. That and the slide show in sex ed didn’t help one bit. So I scribbled Jesus + Jess on my Bible cover, and I casually mentioned my virginity in daily conversations. I committed to the idea hoping it would ensure a successful marriage. Instead, it led to my divorce. (...)


Had we had sex before our relationship transitioned into a contract, I would have known that there was no passion, no spark, nothing happening between our bodies. I would never have agreed to marry him because sex is a significant part of a relationship and therefore a significant part of our relationship was failing. With the failure of our sex life, I felt like less of a woman, no longer a sexual creature but more of a plant. Sitting there, day in, day out, wilting while I waited for someone to take care of me.
Without having sex before marriage, I blindly walked up an aisle and committed myself to a man who didn’t know me and gave my long-held virginity to someone with whom I had no more chemistry than a second cousin.

danni1 wrote:Jbga...mene baš zanima što je to u sexu normalno a što nije normalno.

danni1 wrote:Skloniji sam mišljenju da oni koji se krešu čim ih zasvrbi imaju daleko ne zdraviji odnos prema seksu nego oni koji biraju kad će i s kim stupiti u spolni odnos.

von_Starhemberg wrote:Sam koncept grijeha je pogrešan, po njemu čovjek stalno robuje nekim normama koje su prazne, nemaju sadržaj i postoje samo radi sebe, a ne za dobrobit ljudi...

danni1 wrote:

von_Starhemberg wrote:Sam koncept grijeha je pogrešan, po njemu čovjek stalno robuje nekim normama koje su prazne, nemaju sadržaj i postoje samo radi sebe, a ne za dobrobit ljudi...

Naprotiv,norme su nužne za dobrobit ljudi.
Prazne norme koje postoje radi sebe moženo naći u svjetovnim zakonima grijeh je vrlo konkretan i uvijek, bez iznimke, šteti čovjeku.

von_Starhemberg wrote:

danni1 wrote:

von_Starhemberg wrote:Sam koncept grijeha je pogrešan, po njemu čovjek stalno robuje nekim normama koje su prazne, nemaju sadržaj i postoje samo radi sebe, a ne za dobrobit ljudi...

Naprotiv,norme su nužne za dobrobit ljudi.
Prazne norme koje postoje radi sebe moženo naći u svjetovnim zakonima grijeh je vrlo konkretan i uvijek, bez iznimke, šteti čovjeku.

Onaj prvi grijeh mu je to što s usudio jesti s drva života i spoznati sebe i svoje okruženje...prema tome znanje je grijeh, sitne obmane i laži da bi se čovjeka držalo u ropstvu...

Trinity wrote:

von_Starhemberg wrote:

danni1 wrote:

von_Starhemberg wrote:Sam koncept grijeha je pogrešan, po njemu čovjek stalno robuje nekim normama koje su prazne, nemaju sadržaj i postoje samo radi sebe, a ne za dobrobit ljudi...

Naprotiv,norme su nužne za dobrobit ljudi.
Prazne norme koje postoje radi sebe moženo naći u svjetovnim zakonima grijeh je vrlo konkretan i uvijek, bez iznimke, šteti čovjeku.

Onaj prvi grijeh mu je to što s usudio jesti s drva života i spoznati sebe i svoje okruženje...prema tome znanje je grijeh, sitne obmane i laži da bi se čovjeka držalo u ropstvu...

Nisu to sitne obmane i laži, već dobro isprepletena mreža obmana i laži da bi s čovjeka držalo u ropstvu i pod kontrolom.

zanstr wrote:

Patriot_1 wrote:Po  meni(a nadam se da nauk Novog Zavjeta poznam) svaki sex VAN braka!
Tko se toga drži danas?
Gdje smo mi to?
Gdje je naša vjera?
Da pojasnim,,i prije braka je VAN braka!
Zatim,,svaki sex je grijeh ako se ne radi o MUŽU i ŽENI(opet u braku)!
Komentirajte,,,

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Patriot_1 wrote:

zanstr wrote:

Patriot_1 wrote:Po  meni(a nadam se da nauk Novog Zavjeta poznam) svaki sex VAN braka!
Tko se toga drži danas?
Gdje smo mi to?
Gdje je naša vjera?
Da pojasnim,,i prije braka je VAN braka!
Zatim,,svaki sex je grijeh ako se ne radi o MUŽU i ŽENI(opet u braku)!
Komentirajte,,,

99.99% ljudi ide u pakao  

Pa nebih rekao!
Bog prašta onima koji se pokaju!

Trinity wrote:A di je prikladan citat?

zanstr wrote:

Patriot_1 wrote:

zanstr wrote:

Patriot_1 wrote:Po  meni(a nadam se da nauk Novog Zavjeta poznam) svaki sex VAN braka!
Tko se toga drži danas?
Gdje smo mi to?
Gdje je naša vjera?
Da pojasnim,,i prije braka je VAN braka!
Zatim,,svaki sex je grijeh ako se ne radi o MUŽU i ŽENI(opet u braku)!
Komentirajte,,,

99.99% ljudi ide u pakao  

Pa nebih rekao!
Bog prašta onima koji se pokaju!

Onda samo nevjernici i krivovjernici idu u pakao. Preljubnici i ubojice će biti pošteđeni ako prihvate Isusa.

• Iv 8,1-11
  
  
• U ono vrijeme:
  
  
• Isus se uputi na Maslinsku goru. U zoru eto ga opet u Hramu. Sav je narod hrlio k njemu. On sjede i stade poučavati. Uto mu pismoznanci i farizeji dovedu neku ženu zatečenu u preljubu. Postave je u sredinu i kažu mu: "Učitelju! Ova je žena zatečena u samom preljubu. U Zakonu nam je Mojsije naredio takve kamenovati. Što ti na to kažeš?" To govorahu samo da ga iskušaju pa da ga mogu optužiti.
  
  
  
• Isus se sagne pa stane prstom pisati po tlu. A kako su oni dalje navaljivali, on se uspravi i reče im: "Tko je od vas bez grijeha, neka prvi na nju baci kamen." I ponovno se sagnuvši, nastavi pisati po zemlji. A kad oni to čuše, stadoše odlaziti jedan za drugim, počevši od starijih. Osta Isus sam - i žena koja stajaše u sredini. Isus se uspravi i reče joj: "Ženo, gdje su oni? Zar te nitko ne osudi?" Ona reče: "Nitko, Gospodine." Reče joj Isus: "Ni ja te ne osuđujem. Idi i odsada više nemoj griješiti."
  
  

Patriot_1 wrote:Ejjj,,što je tu normalno?Da se žena tabana s kim stigne,,ili muškarac?I prije braka i u braku!

von_Starhemberg wrote:

danni1 wrote:

von_Starhemberg wrote:Sam koncept grijeha je pogrešan, po njemu čovjek stalno robuje nekim normama koje su prazne, nemaju sadržaj i postoje samo radi sebe, a ne za dobrobit ljudi...

Naprotiv,norme su nužne za dobrobit ljudi.
Prazne norme koje postoje radi sebe moženo naći u svjetovnim zakonima grijeh je vrlo konkretan i uvijek, bez iznimke, šteti čovjeku.

Onaj prvi grijeh mu je to što s usudio jesti s drva života i spoznati sebe i svoje okruženje...prema tome znanje je grijeh, sitne obmane i laži da bi se čovjeka držalo u ropstvu...

Patriot_1 wrote:To "Vegvisir"
""Nisam vjernica tako da me ne dira to što abrahamske religije mrko gledaju na predbračni seks niti bih se ikad odlučila na takvo što jer mi je seks u vezi bitan, ali tema mi je dosta zanimljiva.

Poznam nekoliko ljudi koji su se odlučili na takav način hodanja bez seksa i ako ih to ispunjava, super za njih. Znam da na raznim stranicama s vjerskim sadržajem postoje različite priče parova koji se nisu seksali prije braka i tvrde da su zbog toga sretni i zadovoljni.

Međutim, ono što me zanima je koliko takav način život može utjecati na razvoj nezdravog odnosa prema seksu, straha od njega i općenito sotoniziranja nečeg toliko normalnog i prirodnog? Naime, na linku koji sam stavila ispod dogodio se upravo takav slučaj:""

Ejjj,,što je tu normalno?Da se žena tabana s kim stigne,,ili muškarac?I prije braka i u braku!
Pa majke ti,,kamo nas to vodi?Čija su dica?Što fali ako se sex ostavi za brak?I ostane ,samo u njemu?Ja sam podugo u braku i kao vjernik nikad nisam prevario ženu a ni ona mene i sexualni nam je život ,,,pravi,,baš uživancija!Nebih se nikad mjenjao sa onima koji šaraju!Jadni ljudi!Ča će im to?