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Post by aben Sat 6 Aug - 13:28

lipo gavin govori, ali ne zun koliko bi suzdržavanje žena i nonlandownersa od glasovanja pomoglo, state is left and left is the state.

evo jedun citatić, baš oko mrske industrijske revolucije, ki boco sumnju na mogućnost "ispravnog" glasovanja:

Second, once it is realized that the Industrial Revolution was fi rst and foremost the outcome of the evolutionary growth of human intelligence (rather than the mere removal of institutional barriers to growth), the role of the State can be recognized as fundamentally diff erent under Malthusian vs. post-Malthusian conditions. Under Malthusian conditions the State doesn’t  matter much, at least as far as macroeff ects are concerned. A more exploitative State will simply lead to a lower population number (much like a pest would), but it does not aff ect per capita income. In  fact, in lowering the population density, income per capita may even rise, as it did after the great pestilence in the mid-fourteenth century. And in reverse: a “good,” less-exploitative State will allow for a growing number of people, but per capita incomes will not rise or may even fall, because land per capita is reduced. All this changes with the Industrial Revolution. For if productivity gains continuously outstrip population increases and allow for a steady increase in per capita incomes, then an exploitative institution such as the State can continuously grow  without lowering per capita income and reducing the population number. Th e State then becomes a permanent drag on the economy and per capita incomes. T h ird, whereas under Malthusian conditions positive eugenic eff ects reign: the economically successful produce more surviving off spring and the population stock is thus gradually bettered (cognitively improved). Under post-Malthusian conditions the existence and the growth of the State produces a two-fold dysgenic eff ect, especially under democratic welfare-state conditions. For one, the “economically challenged,” as the principal “clients” of the welfare State,produce more surviving off spring, and the economically successful less. Second, the steady growth of a parasitic State, made possible by  a growing underlying economy, systematically aff ects the requirements of economic success. Economic success becomes increasingly dependent on politics and political talent, i.e., the talent of using the State to enrich oneself at others’ expense. In  any case, the population stock becomes increasingly worse (as far as the cognitive requirements of prosperity and economic growth are concerned), rather than better.
ovo je iz a short history of man, progress and decline, 
a više o tomu ima u democracy, the god that failed, isto od hh hopea

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Post by kic Mon 8 Aug - 0:09

Why This is NOT a Modern Civil Rights Movement.

We’ve all heard them, people claiming the push for homosexual “marriage” is the modern Civil Rights Movement. There are many things in this statement that are simply wrong. To begin with, the Civil Rights Movement was a push to prevent something from happening, not a push for something to happen. The Civil Rights sought to end blatantly unconstitutional laws already put into place, not to put new laws into place. The Civil Rights Movement served to end persecution, real persecution. I have never once seen a sign that read “straights only” or “Gay section that way.” Now, this is not to say that these signs do not exist, but these signs are rare. Homosexuals are not denied their legal rights. The fact of the matter is, the Civil Rights Movement fought for already existing legal rights as citizens to be protected. The push for homosexual “marriage” is a press for legal rights to be expanded. We all currently have equal rights under US law. We all have the right to marry the opposing gender.

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Post by Guest Tue 9 Aug - 16:25

Bok dečki! :)

Evo, moram se pohvaliti s nula pročitanih knjiga ali zato promatranje mora donosi nove osobne spoznaje :)
Osjećam se bogatijom i ispunjenijom, a to je i cilj svakog od nas, zar ne?! :)
(dakako, to se ne odnosi na novčanik koji se itekako ispraznio:))
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Post by kic Tue 9 Aug - 18:26

zar je vec proslo 2 tj :/
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Post by Guest Tue 9 Aug - 19:11

kic wrote:zar je vec proslo 2 tj :/
Vidiš, nisam izdržala do petka već sam odmah s puta pohitala na forum :) Još uvijek sam na go koji ću do daljnjeg provesti doma (mislim).
Jel ideš ti gdje?

Bila sam i na Abendovom otoku al ga nisam nigdje vidjela :D

Već, a?! :)
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Post by kic Tue 9 Aug - 19:20

idem, možda već sutra..

sasvim slučajno na abendovom otoku :p
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Post by Guest Tue 9 Aug - 19:26

kic wrote:idem, možda već sutra..

sasvim slučajno na abendovom otoku :p
Meni je vrijeme zadnja 3 dana bilo koma.. Valjda će tebe poslužiti iako opet najavljuju pogoršanje....Koliko ostaješ i gdje ćeš ti?

A, otišla sam preko mosta do njega, namjerno. :) Moram priznati da sam se jako razočarala jer sam i prije znala otići tamo. Pričaju o turbo sezoni, a ono troduplo manje turista. Sve zapušteno, nije se ulagalo godinama...Shvaćam njegovu gorčinu u potpunosti...
Da sam ga srela, sigurno bih ga počastila kavom :)
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Post by kic Tue 9 Aug - 19:43

ne znam još ništa, idem domaja prvo :D

to je abend namjerno pustio da divljina zavlada na otoku kako bi odbio potencijalne tresspasere, a kad malo zagrebeš, raj na zemlji..
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Post by Guest Tue 9 Aug - 19:50

kic wrote:ne znam još ništa, idem domaja prvo :D

to je abend namjerno pustio da divljina zavlada na otoku kako bi odbio potencijalne tresspasere, a kad malo zagrebeš, raj na zemlji..
A joooj, pa ti si daleko od kuće....Sam, samcat u divljem svijetu...

Pa puno je mjesta na otoku koja su zbilja ono, izvan civilizacije. Tu idem ja :) No, ponekad se poželim malo "akcije" pa odem u "civilizaciju". 
U svemu je bitna organizacija :)
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Post by betty.boop Tue 9 Aug - 20:11

aj bokte, i ja sam sama, sta ga zalis :p
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Post by Guest Tue 9 Aug - 20:13

betty.boop wrote:aj bokte, i ja sam sama, sta ga zalis :p
Al ti si žensko :)

Sposobnija, samostalnija, okretnija, spretnija, itd.. :) (k tome si lijepa, zgodna i mlada) :)
Meni muških uvijek žao, čak i kada se poput purana napušu :)
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Post by kic Tue 9 Aug - 20:18

ne znam šta bi reko sad :^0
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Post by Guest Tue 9 Aug - 20:20

kic wrote:ne znam šta bi reko sad :^0
Ništa, baci nečije tuđe misli :D
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Post by kic Tue 9 Aug - 20:22

you're pushing it ey oy! :^^
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Post by betty.boop Tue 9 Aug - 20:24

slazem se sa svim napisanim, mate, jedina razlika je da ih meni nije zao ;)
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Post by kic Tue 9 Aug - 20:24

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Post by Guest Tue 9 Aug - 20:33

kic wrote:you're pushing it ey oy! :^^
Željela sam ispraviti rečeno, no preduhitrio si me :)

Ima jedna lijepa priča s ovog mog ljetovanja gdje sam se sjetila tebe i Abenda. Naime, svaki dan u blizini mene na pustoj, bespravno izgrađenoj kako bih nazvala mjesto izbetonirano samo za tebe, a nije plaža?!  scratch....viđala sam čovjeka koji je strastveno čitao i podvlačio običnom olovkom pročitano. Dakako, svakodnevno sam ga promatrala i njegovu udubljenost u štivo. Divila sam se njegovoj opuštenosti i očito ljubavi prema knjigama. Ja sam u to vrijeme promatrala svijet oko sebe i umjesto olovkom, upijala u sebe osjećaje ljepote trenutka. Mislima udubljena u spontane spoznaje koje su zvuci i mirisi mora prizivali...
Navečer, kako je moj prozor gledao u njegovu dnevnu, vidjela bih ga za velikom plazmom gdje bi nešto pisao.....Pomislila sam, mora da je na nekom forumu :D

(i ne, nisam stalker, bilo je spontano, slučajno :D)
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Post by Guest Tue 9 Aug - 20:37

betty.boop wrote:slazem se sa svim napisanim, mate, jedina razlika je da ih meni nije zao ;)
A meni uvijek je....u svakom slučaju... :)
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Post by kic Wed 10 Aug - 0:19

zvuči ko jedan pametan čovik :D

misli je previše, na tisuće dnevno, da bi se nešto pretočilo u knjigu mora proći određeni filtar, ima puno dobrog štiva ali se jako malo čita, knjigu su besplatne, ali život ne da vremena za sve to čitati, ili sami ne znamo rasporediti i ono malo slobodnog :/

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Post by aben Wed 10 Aug - 8:57

divljina je preuzela otok oka ljudi više ne kuvaju na drva i oka su nan nametnuti suludi urbanistički propisi o gradnji.
i divljina privloči slovenci i česi, tako da to ni dobra strategija tiranja trespasera.
meni je čak draže i kad ljudi betoniraju ogromne zgrade, u ke unda u letu trpaju zagrepčane, iako je pojam turističkog boravka u stanu na otoku sličan odsjedanju u alkatrazu, nego ka vidin neuređenu rivu, di se rivaju ljudi i auti, a sve da se ne ruvina prirodna obala. fuck prirodnu obalu. to su sike, plićina, navlasatke i ranji. čoviku je imanentno da stavi svoju ruku na okoliš, a fašisti nan to bronu.


znoči, ipak si pošla na vlaški otok? ča se nisu popunili?

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Post by Guest Thu 11 Aug - 9:58

Kako bi ti uredio svoj otok?

A tamo gdje sam ja bila, puno je slovenaca. I nikako turistički boravak u stanu nije prihvatljiv. Imam i vrt :)

Na Pašmanu sam bila ali u jednom od seoca prema tebi. Nekako mi sve djeluje manje turista nego prijašnjih godina. Otišla sam i do Kukljice jer mi je to bilo najbliže ali sam ostala baš razočarana koliko je sve propalo. Uglavnom, meni odgovara mir, more, tišina ali da su neka privlačna i uređena mjesta - nisu.

Rekla sam ti da ću doći blizu tebe i jesam :)

Što se tiče cijena, prihvatljive su, nisu pretjerivali. Malo sam gledala i cijene nekretnina. Mislim da ću u tvoju branšu pa cijelo ljeto provesti na moru. Bila sam kratko pa kada sam se vratila pomislila sam da je bolje i da nisam išla jer sam se samo podsjetila koja je depresija ovdje kod mene. Em klima, em sve. Kao da mi je netko bacio vreću na leđa. Odmah me glava počela boljeti, nervoza još k tome sivilo..Tamo i kada je bila ona jaka bura s petka na subotu, ja sam uživala...Jednostavno mi sve tamo odgovara...Ako se želiš deprimirati dođi u Slavoniju :)
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