Obama ostao đubre do kraja: protjeruje ruske diplomate "zbog namještanja američkih izbora"

by Kermit Fri 30 Dec - 8:21

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/372214-obama-clinton-russia-sanctions-hypocricy/

by Kermit Fri 30 Dec - 8:22

by mutava baštarda Fri 30 Dec - 8:25

liberali kada su u očaju režu vene ili se napiju tableta, a ovaj samo što ne stisne crveno dugme...

by Kermit Fri 30 Dec - 13:37

Oliver Stone added 4 new photos.
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THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING
As 2016 draws to a close, we find ourselves a deeply unsettled nation. We’re unable to draw the lines of our national interest. Is it jobs and economy, is it national security, or is it now in our interest to ensure global security -- in other words, act as the world’s policemen?
As the “failing” (to quote Trump) New York Times degenerates into a Washington Post organization with its stagnant Cold War vision of a 1950s world where the Russians are to blame for most everything -- Hillary’s loss, most of the aggression and disorder in the world, the desire to destabilize Europe, etc. -- the Times has added the issue of ‘fake news’ to reassert its problematic role as the dominant voice for the Washington establishment. Certainly this is true in the case of Russia’s ‘hacking’ the 2016 election and putting into office its Manchurian Candidate in Donald Trump. Apparently the CIA (via various unnamed intelligence officials), and the FBI, NSA, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper (who notoriously lied to Congress in the Snowden affair), President Obama, the DNC, Hillary Clinton, and Congress agree that Russia, and Mr. Putin predominantly, is responsible.
Certainly the psychotic, war-loving Senator John McCain is right up there alongside these patriots, calling President Putin a “thug, bully and a murderer and anybody else who describes him as anything else is lying.” He actually said this -- the man whose sound judgment chose Sarah Palin as his VP nominee in ’08. And the Times followed by printing the story in its full glory on page one, clearly agreeing with McCain’s point of view. I don’t remember Presidents Eisenhower, Nixon, or Reagan, in the darkest days of the 1950s/80s, ever singling out a Russian President like this. The invective was aimed at the Soviet regime, but never were Khrushchev or Brezhnev the target of this bile. I guess this is a new form of American diplomacy. If a black youth in our inner cities were killed or a Pakistani wedding party were murdered by our drones, would President Obama be singled out as a murderer, bully, thug? Such personalization is a sign of sickness in our thinking and way beneath what should be our standards.
Note the enclosed link ("US Intel Vets Dispute Russia Hacking Claims") from the Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (which includes the ex-NSA reformer Bill Binney, a mathematical genius who inspired the Nic Cage character in “Snowden”). He talks here about what hacking really means, as opposed to a ‘leak’. The Times and other mainstream media have surprisingly evaded any contrary evidence, such as that presented by Craig Murray, ex-ambassador and Wikileaks spokesman who says he was given the information in a Washington park by a Democratic ‘insider’ who was disgusted by the behavior of the DNC; Murray then gave it to Wikileaks. This was a ‘leak,’ not a ‘hack,’ and always seemed to me the likely source for this scandal (as I think the Sony leak was as well, falsely blamed on North Korea, but that’s another matter). And if this were to be properly investigated, it might very well lead to the discovery that this was Hillary Clinton’s ‘Nixon moment.’ Clearly the DNC offices were up to no good. Ironically, Clinton first made her name as one of the investigators into Watergate. See Mark Ames’s article, “Site Behind McCarthyite Blacklist,” tracking this foul play to Washington Post journalist Craig Timberg.
I remember well in the 1950s when the Russians were supposed to be in our schools, Congress, State Department -- and according to many Eisenhower/Nixon supporters -- about to take over our country without serious opposition (and they call me paranoid!). It was this same media who insisted on our need to go to Vietnam to defend our freedoms against the communists 6,000 miles away. And after the Red Scare finally went away for good in 1991, let us remind ourselves that It never ended. It became Hussein of Iraq with his weapons of mass destruction, and talk of the ‘mushroom cloud.’ It became the Demon, as real as any Salem Witch Trial. It was Gaddafi of Libya, and then it was Assad of Syria. In other words, as in an Orwellian prophesy, it never ended, and I can guarantee you it never will -- unless we the people who still think for ourselves in this existential matter, can say “Enough” to this demon act. “Enough,’ “go away” -- laugh in their faces.
Of course, the NYT/WaPo nexus rarely publishes any of our serious dissents and therefore we take refuge in alternate media, such as ‘Consortiumnews,’ ‘The Intercept,’ ‘Naked Capitalism,’ ‘Counterpunch,’ ‘Zero Hedge,’ ‘Antiwar.com,’ ‘Truthdig,’ ‘Common Dreams,’ etc. I think then we were all quite shocked (but not surprised) when recently we saw 200 WEBSITES listed as tools of the Kremlin (WaPo’s November 24, “Russian propaganda effort helped spread ‘fake news’ during election”).
My God, the ghost of Izzy Stone is back from the 1950s! For that matter, so is Tom Clancy from the ’80s. False thrillers will now be written about the Russians hacking the American elections. Money and TV serials will be made. I’ve never read such hysterical junk in the New York Times (call it what it is -- “fake news”), in which the editorials have become outrageous diatribes of alleged crimes by Russia, many of them presumably written by Serge Schmemann, one of those ideologues who still looks for Russians under his bed at night; they were called ‘White Russians’ in the old days and, like right-wing Cubans in Miami, are unable to live down past grievances. Schmemann is obviously riding high at the NYT edit board. This type of thinking has clearly influenced the Pentagon and many of our Generals' statements, and has pervaded MSM reporting. When one group-think controls our national conversation, it becomes truly dangerous. In this spirit, I’m linking several crucial essays of new vintage, pointing out the disgrace the MSM has become.
As much as I may disagree with Donald Trump (and I do) he’s right now target number one of the MSM propaganda -- until, that is, he jumps to the anti-Kremlin track because of some kind of false intelligence or misunderstanding cooked up by CIA. Then I fear, in his hot-headed way, he starts fighting with the Russians, and it wouldn’t be long then until a state of war against Russia is declared. I have no doubt then that our over-financed military ($10 to every 1 Russian dollar) will mean NOTHING against a country that right now believes the US, with the largest buildup of NATO on its borders since Hitler’s World War II, is crazed enough to prepare for a preemptive strike. In his analysis, “The Need to Hold Saudi Arabia Accountable,” Robert Parry points out that this conflict ironically started in the 1980s with the Neoconservatives defining Iran as the number one terrorist sponsor in the world. How this leads to our present mess is a brilliant analysis that is unknown to the American public.
I urge you to read the following articles and stay calm in your thinking. But bring it to bear in some way. As a believer in what the Dalai Lama says, every single one of us, even through our prayers, can add to the betterment of this world. I never thought I’d find myself praying for the level-headedness of a Donald Trump. Remember “The Iliad”? As Homer would have it, the gods would hover over each day’s battles and decide on the outcome. Who would die and who would live. Are the gods still listening?

by Ringo10 Fri 30 Dec - 13:45

Američki sotonisti su totalno skrenuli s uma. Amerika je rak rana a onaj klempavi majmun bi mogao napraviti teško sranje do inauguracije Trumpa.

U stvari on je samo jedan smrdljivi šupak koji sluša naredbe najgoreg zla u povijesti a to je američka politička elita, ta gomila manijaka i masovnih ubojica.

I još, na kraju će se dokazati a već ima indicija da su oni i oborili onaj avion iznad Sočija.

by govinda Fri 30 Dec - 18:51

Ma tjeraj sve u pm...dosta tog ruskog imeprijalizma!

by Yehudi Sat 31 Dec - 9:10

Marija Zaharova, glasnogovornica ruskoga Ministarstva vanjskih poslova, posprdno je rekla kako je

Obamina administracija skupina nadurenih, mrgodnih i nedobronamjernih gubitnika. Šef Vanjskopolitičkog

odbora Vijeća Federacije, Konstantin Kosačov, izjavio je kako je ovo potez političkog mrtvaca, a ruski

premijer Dmitrij Medvedev to smatra "agonijom odlazeće administracije" te je čak na svom Twitteru

komentar o diplomatskom skandalu završio porukom "R.I.P.".

Dmitrij Peskov, prvi glas Kremlja, poručio je Obami kako je više dosta šarade:

"Ili prestanite s tim optužbama, ili konačno izađite s dokazima".

britanski diplomat Peter Ford smatra da je Obamino ponašanje "iracionalno, djetinjasto i neučinkovito"

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Trump može povući ovu odluku a to će i napraviti.

by Sora Sat 31 Dec - 9:20

Dubre je POCRNILO SKROZ .
afro

by jastreb Sat 31 Dec - 9:27

Osovina zla:Obama-Hillary-Mekrel-Erdogan.

Srećom jedan zauvijek odlazi. Drugo zlo nije ni primirisalo slasti vlasti. Trećemm zlu trese se i guzica i fotelja. Četvrto zlo će biti otjerano u kut i tako neutralizirano.

by RayMabus Sat 31 Dec - 9:28

The Elites literally hijacked the democratic countries and declared war to middle east countries that were openly against their one-world government plan. It’s not a secret that the president of the U.S. was a paid puppet of this cartel of bankers, he was appointed to be the president of this Country since he was a kid, and they pushed him to obedience, mind-controlling him and the people around him as well as many other people in MSM, military and secret agencies through the publicly disclosed MK-Ultra program. This is the very reason they were madly against the new president-elect.

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by Yehudi Sat 31 Dec - 9:41

'Putin neće protjerivati naše diplomate, on je jako pametan'

Novizabrani američki predsjednik Donald Trump pohvalio je Putinovu reakciju na protjerivanje 35 ruskih

diplomata iz SAD-a koje je naredio predsjednik Barack Obama...

Odličan Potez Vladimira Putina. Uvijek sam znao da je jako pametan.

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Donald J. Trump

✔@realDonaldTrump
[ltr]Great move on delay (by V. Putin) - I always knew he was very smart![/ltr]

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[ltr] Iebe Putin i ne vadi.....ubama husejin na aparatima [/ltr]

[ltr]PS - Ima već godine kako ja govorim da je čamuga najgori predsjednik do sada[/ltr]

by crvenkasti Sat 31 Dec - 9:48

Najgore od svega je to što je i sam početak uzleta idiotizma od neoliberalnog svjetskog poretka svakome tko je htio razmišljati izgledao jednako sumamuto i izopačeno kako što je i danas.

I budali je moglo biti jasno da proizvodnja sve većih sranja koja vuku jedno drugo i gomilanje dugova mora dovesti do potonuća u smrad i kaljužu u kojoj je danas čitav svijet.

Međutim, godinama smo se svi natjecali tko će više i jače podržati izokrenuti i suludi sistem vrijednosti i pravili se glupi, slijepi i gluhi.

Odgovornost i krivica nije na onima koji su se u svemu tome najviše obogatili, nego na na nama koji smo im pomagali nadajući se da ćemo u najgorim pljačkama, ratovima i sranjima i mi dobiti makar mali dio.

E, što je najgore? Ono što je rekao Putin, kada i gdje je sve počelo. Počelo je, po njenu, u Jugoslaviji. Tu su se otvorila vrata pandorine kutije.

by marcellus Sat 31 Dec - 9:48

garavi klempo se pogubio

by RayMabus Sat 31 Dec - 9:54

Vracate se u hladni rat kad je bilo više vlada .....ideja jedne vlade odakle ce 1% jako bogatih i pokvarenih vladati cijelom planetom je propala.

To nije bitno za male ljude al je da nitko iz jednog centra nemože imati pod vlašcu cijeli planet.

Pozzz od Galakticke Federacije i sretna Nova 2017.

by crvenkasti Sat 31 Dec - 10:03

marcellus wrote:garavi klempo se pogubio

Još se ne mogu prestati čuditi zašto postoje ljudi poput tebe. Ti si za mene otkriće.

Nije čudno što netko podržava i obožava suludog nasilnika i sviđa mu se što je moćan i nepobjediv.

Međutim, ambiciju koju netko ima da uvjerava druge da je taj nasilnik i ubica u pravu i da mu trebamo pomagati u sranjima, i to čintiti uporno i strastveno godinama, to ne mogu shvatiti.

I na kraju, kad taj nasilnik potone u smradu, onda se izrugivati njemu i onome što si obožavao i sa suludim egzibicionizmom pljuvati i sprdati se sa vlastitim debilnim zabludama.

by debotoijusto Sat 31 Dec - 10:05

nitko nije ubra jedan bitan detalj , rep. i dem. senatori su ujedinjeni u ovom trenutnom odnosu prema rusiji

by RayMabus Sat 31 Dec - 10:08

debotoijusto wrote:nitko nije ubra jedan bitan detalj , rep. i dem. senatori su ujedinjeni u ovom trenutnom odnosu prema rusiji

Elite se snalaze no problem je šta su njima republikanci konzervativna ideja tj Amerika Amerikancima a njima treba demokratska ideologija da proguraju šemu svi smo mi jedno pa kad je tako onda svi možete biti pod vlašću samo jedne vlade.

by RayMabus Sat 31 Dec - 10:13

Red wolf koji piše na forumu tu i tamo ti je najbolji primjer o cemu se tu radi ......elite znaju da dosta ljudi vjeruje u tu pricu o idealu svi smo mi jedno , jedan svijet ....dakle i jedna vlada ...i dok ti naivci zaista vjeruju u to šta je njihova energija elite to koriste da bi iza zavjese takve ideje formirali svijet sa jednom vladom kojom naravno oni upravljaju al im za tako šta treba demokratska ideologija a ne republikanska jer republikanci su ideologija Amerika Amerikancima a ne ova svi smo mi jedno.

by RayMabus Sat 31 Dec - 10:15

Mini primjer takve ideologije imaš na tlu Europe i zove se Europska unija ....to je njihov projekt = svi smo mi jedno , nema nacija i toga ....dakle onda kad je tako onda i jedna vlada .....naravno s kojom oni upravljaju iza sjene ovim ovcama koji vjeruju u to .....a za tako šta im treba demokratska ideologija jer je samo ta pogodna za pranje mozga ovom idejom.

by debotoijusto Sat 31 Dec - 10:16

RayMabus wrote:
debotoijusto wrote:nitko nije ubra jedan bitan detalj , rep. i dem. senatori su ujedinjeni u ovom trenutnom odnosu prema rusiji
Elite se snalaze no problem je šta su njima republikanci konzervativna ideja tj Amerika Amerikancima a njima treba demokratska ideologija da proguraju šemu svi smo mi jedno pa kad je tako onda svi možete biti pod vlašću samo jedne vlade.

ne znam sto je u igri jer slabo pratim no vidim da rep. od ugleda za jos jace sankcije a ove vecina podrzava i jos zajedno s dem. rade na strategiji tko zna cega
s druge strane ne vidim da trump tu nesto kontrolira rep. tj. igra neku svoju igru , to prolazi dok ne uzme zezlo a onda se mora jasno postavit

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