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Post by Guest Sun 17 Jul - 13:34


Zemlja koja stane iza Gulena uključena je u rat s Turskom


Pročitajte više na: http://www.24sata.hr/news/tisuce-ljudi-na-skupu-podrske-erdogan-dao-ultimatum-sad-u-483417 - 24sata.hr

Bilo koja zemlja koja stane iza Gulena nije prijatelj Turske i uključena je u ozbiljni rat s Turskom - rekao je premijer Binali Yildirim iz svog ureda u Ankari.

http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/turska-optuzila-sad-za-ukljucenost-u-pokusaj-puca-kerry-odgovara-to-je-potpuno-netocno-i-stetno/906862.aspx

SJEDINJENE Države upozorile su Tursku zbog "javnih insinuacija" o američkoj uključenosti u pokušaj vojnog udara ističući da su takve tvrdnje "potpuno netočne i štetne" po njihove odnose.

Kako u nedjelju prenosi BBC, američki državni tajnik John Kerry oglasio se s tim u vezi nakon što je turski ministar rada izrazio određene sugestije o tome da SAD stoji iza propalog pokušaja udara.

Turski predsjednik Recep Tayyip Erdogan pozvao je Sjedinjene Države da izruče Turskoj klerika Fethullaha Gulena koji se već niz godina nalazi u toj zemlji, a kojega je Erdogan označio kao onoga koji stoji iza pokušaja udara.

Američki državni tajnik kazao je  kako Turska mora predstaviti "legitimne dokaze" vezane uz svoje tvrdnje koje će SAD potom razmotriti.
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Post by Winter is coming Sun 17 Jul - 13:52

Tako su srali i kad su u NY proglasili legitimnim cinjenicu da su janjicari izvrsili genocid nad Jermenima,zaostrili odnose sa amerikom,povukli ambasadora i nakon mjesec dana se sve stisalo,previse su mali da bi se zajebavali sa velikim igracima ali dovoljno jaki da mlave kurde,upadaju i irak,snbdjevaju teroriste u siriji i prave svinjarije u komsiluku

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Post by flumen Sun 17 Jul - 13:57

Cuo sam danas i od nekih Srba - tradicionalno kontra Amera - da je izgleda Erdogan puc sam organizirao i zaustavio da bi se mogao bez problema obracunati sa neistomisljenicima. Nista cudno - s obzirom da je prije par tjedana skinuo imunitet parlamentarcima, a narocito onima iz oporbe (Kurdima)

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Post by Guest Sun 17 Jul - 14:12

erdogan  islamista, a ne samo musliman.
u sustini, cesto to prikriva,
zeli da potisne ataturka,
 ispod cije slike voli da daje izjave,
politicki ga tlaci.  govori o sek. turskoj. 
turska ima problem sa rusijom, bez zapada
ona je lovina, plen. zadnjih 200 godina turska
ne moze da parira rusiji. a sigurno rusija nece
dati truskoj da na balkanu tera kera.to cini
zapad da bi prkosio rusiji, umesto turske.
srbima zapad uteruje tursku.
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Post by Guest Sun 17 Jul - 14:14

chater wrote:erdogan  islamista, a ne samo musliman.
u sustini, cesto to prikriva,
zeli da potisne ataturka,
 ispod cije slike voli da daje izjave,
politicki ga tlaci.  govori o sek. turskoj. 
turska ima problem sa rusijom, bez zapada
ona je lovina, plen. zadnjih 200 godina turska
ne moze da parira rusiji. a sigurno rusija nece
dati truskoj da na balkanu tera kera.to cini
zapad da bi prkosio rusiji, umesto turske.
srbima zapad uteruje tursku.

Russian military intelligence have warned that Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is travelling to Saudi Arabia in order to declare himself as the “leader” of ISIS and the entire Islamic world. The Ministry of Defense say that Erdogan plans on igniting a World War III between Russia and Nato (and its allies) so that he can establish a global caliphate.

According to a MoD report, Erdogan has assumed his leadership role based on a fatwa issued by Hayrettin Karaman, who says an entirely new constitution in Turkey gives Erdogan the legal right to become an emir and establish his caliphate.

Whatdoesitmean.com reports:

With many Muslims in the world already calling Erdogan a “god”, this report continues, it is, also, critical to remember that his “main teacher” Hayrettin Karaman, who issued this fatwa, had previously, in 2009, been caught on a secret recording issuing another fatwa directly to Erdogan authorizing Turkey’s National Intelligence Organization (MIT) to assassinate Turkish politician Muhsin Yazicioglu—and which in giving his reason to Erdogan as to why he was allowing this murder simply stated “slaughter is obligatory”.

Interesting to note too, this report says, is that the West is now becoming gravely worried about Erdogan too, and as evidenced by the Wall Street Journal yesterday warning that Turkey has gone from being viewed by Western government officials, media and academics as an influential, moderating force for regional stability and economic growth, to a tacit supporter, if not outright sponsor, of international terrorism and is now viewed as a dangerous ally that risks plunging NATO into an unwanted conflict with Russia.


Speaking last year of the porous Turkey-Syria border too, this report further notes, US Vice President Joseph Biden let slip, in a moment of rare candor, that the biggest problem America was facing in confronting Islamic State terrorists was its own NATO ally Turkey—a true admission he was forced by President Obama to apologize for.

http://yournewswire.com/erdogan-declares-himself-isis-leader-hopes-to-start-world-war-3/
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Post by Winter is coming Sun 17 Jul - 14:15

najbolja opcija bi bila da se janicari pocnu medjusobno tamaniti sto je izgleda vrlo moguci scenario

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Post by Guest Sun 17 Jul - 14:16

moguce da turske postigne neki dogovor na rusima,
mimo amera. da se turska okrene istoku, politicki,
mimo zelje zapada, a da ih rusi ne cimaju, ako
budu koopretivni.
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Post by marcellus Sun 17 Jul - 14:18

pa ako zarate turci i ameri, nama nikakva šteta...

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Post by Winter is coming Sun 17 Jul - 14:20

Turska i dogovor sa rusima?to bi bila pushiona za janjicare,znaci okrenuli bi ledja vehabijama u siriji i na taj nacin navukli njihov bijes na sebe,pushiona im je kako god okrenesh


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Post by Guest Sun 17 Jul - 14:21

Erdogan proclaimed himself God. You heard it correctly.

An alleged supporter of the ruling Justice and Development Party (AK Party) welcomed President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan by chanting “Welcome, O Messenger of God,” a phrase commonly used to refer to the Prophet Muhammad, in the latest in a series of similar remarks attributing divine qualities to Erdoğan.”

“In another example, AK Party Bursa deputy Hüseyin Şahin at one point said that touching Erdoğan is a form of prayer, while AK Party Düzce deputy Fevai Arslan said Erdoğan has all the attributes of God.”

A billboard last month was erected for Erdogan’s birthday, February 26, in the Gölbaşı district of adıyaman province inviting people to attend a “holy birthday” event to celebrate the birthday of President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, except this celebration is not attributing the festivity for Erdogan as mere man, but as a prophet.

“Among the activities planned for the event — scheduled for 7 p.m. on Feb. 26 — are a religious talk from theologian Ömer Döngeloğlu; a concert of hymns (known as ilahi [my God] praising God and extolling the characteristics of the Prophet Muhammad) by Recep Aslan and Bilal Göregen; and a sema performance (whirling dervishes).”

“Religious talks, hymns and sema performances like those planned for the president’s birthday are common to religious celebrations held in honor of the Prophet Muhammad’s birth.”

This is not treating Erdogan as mere man, but prophet. Whirling dervishes is not just Turkish art, but the process of Fana, on how one can become God.

http://shoebat.com/2015/03/31/shocking-and-amazing-erdogan-has-now-declared-himself-to-be-god/


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Post by provocator Sun 17 Jul - 14:21

marcellus wrote:pa ako zarate turci i ameri, nama nikakva šteta...
E ako ovo ERO pročita neće se skidati s aparata narednih mjesec dana a možda i duže.

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Post by Winter is coming Sun 17 Jul - 14:22

iskopace (s)ero vec neku dobru vijest za anglosaksoniju cat

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Post by neva Sun 17 Jul - 14:25

jedna članica NATO-a gotovo prijeti drugoj članici, izravno je ucjenjujući i iznuđujući izručenje Erdoganovog najvećeg suparnika i protivnika :O
pitanje je kome je najviše odgovarao zbrljani 'puč' bez suvisle akcije, organizacije, glave i repa?

Erdoganu, naravno ... zbilja 'božji blagoslov', samo mislim da se taj 'bog' zove Erdogan
konzekvence puča su očite, Erdogan će sad zasigurno temeljito očistiti Tursku od svih nepoćudnih i ukloniti sve prepreke oko sebe, no izgleda da koristi priliku i nastoji ukloniti prepreke i probleme i na malo široj razini od granica Turske
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Post by Guest Sun 17 Jul - 14:26

Usne Stjepana Gnječa wrote:
chater wrote:erdogan  islamista, a ne samo musliman.
u sustini, cesto to prikriva,
zeli da potisne ataturka,
 ispod cije slike voli da daje izjave,
politicki ga tlaci.  govori o sek. turskoj. 
turska ima problem sa rusijom, bez zapada
ona je lovina, plen. zadnjih 200 godina turska
ne moze da parira rusiji. a sigurno rusija nece
dati truskoj da na balkanu tera kera.to cini
zapad da bi prkosio rusiji, umesto turske.
srbima zapad uteruje tursku.

Russian military intelligence have warned that Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is travelling to Saudi Arabia in order to declare himself as the “leader” of ISIS and the entire Islamic world. The Ministry of Defense say that Erdogan plans on igniting a World War III between Russia and Nato (and its allies) so that he can establish a global caliphate.

According to a MoD report, Erdogan has assumed his leadership role based on a fatwa issued by Hayrettin Karaman, who says an entirely new constitution in Turkey gives Erdogan the legal right to become an emir and establish his caliphate.

Whatdoesitmean.com reports:

With many Muslims in the world already calling Erdogan a “god”, this report continues, it is, also, critical to remember that his “main teacher” Hayrettin Karaman, who issued this fatwa, had previously, in 2009, been caught on a secret recording issuing another fatwa directly to Erdogan authorizing Turkey’s National Intelligence Organization (MIT) to assassinate Turkish politician Muhsin Yazicioglu—and which in giving his reason to Erdogan as to why he was allowing this murder simply stated  “slaughter is obligatory”.

Interesting to note too, this report says, is that the West is now becoming gravely worried about Erdogan too, and as evidenced by the Wall Street Journal yesterday warning that Turkey has gone from being viewed by Western government officials, media and academics as an influential, moderating force for regional stability and economic growth, to a tacit supporter, if not outright sponsor, of international terrorism and is now viewed as a dangerous ally that risks plunging NATO into an unwanted conflict with Russia.


Speaking last year of the porous Turkey-Syria border too, this report further notes, US Vice President Joseph Biden let slip, in a moment of rare candor, that the biggest problem America was facing in confronting Islamic State terrorists was its own NATO ally Turkey—a true admission he was forced by President Obama to apologize for.

http://yournewswire.com/erdogan-declares-himself-isis-leader-hopes-to-start-world-war-3/

turska je najzesci protivnik hriš. ekumenizma, jet time gube prostor,
pol. i verskog delovanja, posebno na balkanu. tursci zele izolovani balkan,
gde ce podrivati uticaj rusije, odnosno ortodoksnog hriscanstva, uz podrsku
engleza. zato v.b. nije voljna dasrbija bude deo eu, da bi je izlozila turskoj.
kao clanica eu srbija dobija zastitu nato, indirektno. ovako, srbija koja
nije clanica nato, postaje turski poligon uz podrsku zapada. srbija ce ipak
morati da se odluci izmedje rusije i nato. srbija mora da zastiti svoje
interese, ili u okviru nato, ili kao ruska sfera, dirketno i otvoreno.
srbija ne moze dugorocno da izudrci, pa ni samo politike udare
sa zapada i turske, kao  vojni  vakuum, na cemu gradi svoj status.
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Post by marcellus Sun 17 Jul - 14:26

HQ wrote:jedna članica NATO-a gotovo prijeti drugoj članici, izravno je ucjenjujući i iznuđujući izručenje Erdoganovog najvećeg suparnika i protivnika :O
pitanje je kome je najviše odgovarao zbrljani 'puč' bez suvisle akcije, organizacije, glave i repa?

Erdoganu, naravno ...

da je popušio ne bi mu odgovarao.

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Post by marcellus Sun 17 Jul - 14:27

HQ wrote:j Erdogan će sad zasigurno temeljito očistiti Tursku od svih nepoćudnih i ukloniti sve prepreke oko sebe, no izgleda da koristi priliku i nastoji ukloniti prepreke i probleme i na malo široj razini od granica Turske

Opet, to nije naša briga...

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Post by flumen Sun 17 Jul - 14:29

nasa je briga druze marselu, balkanska ruta za 3 milijuna sirijskih izbjeglica i barem 10 milijuna turaka/kurada koji ce sad trazit politicki azil u jojropi...tko ce te granice cuvat?

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Post by Brain32 Sun 17 Jul - 14:33

marcellus wrote:Opet, to nije naša briga...


Obzirom na povijest ne bi se složio...
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Post by Guest Sun 17 Jul - 14:33

flumen wrote:nasa je briga druze marselu, balkanska ruta za 3 milijuna sirijskih izbjeglica i barem 10 milijuna turaka/kurada koji ce sad trazit politicki azil u jojropi...tko ce te granice cuvat?

Marčelo će pedalirat na biciklu duž granice RH i čuvat.
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